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JT
03-27-2003, 15:33
President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell was educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator ; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge was raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza

Rice earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981.

(Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.)

She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in Washington, D.C.
So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade.
Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.
Career: Acting

Jessica Lange Dropped out college mid-freshman year.
Career: Acting


Alec Baldwin Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal
Career: Acting

Julia Roberts Completed high school
Career: Acting

Sean Penn Completed High school
Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.
Career: Acting

Ed Asner Completed High school
Career: Acting

George Clooney Dropped out of University of Kentucky
Career: Acting

Michael Moore Dropped out first year University of Michigan.
Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School
Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School
Career: Acting

Mike Farrell Completed High school
Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo Dropped out of College.
Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman Attended Bard College for one year.
Career: Acting

Supamatt
03-27-2003, 16:34
My thought exactly! Would you mind if I posted this as an article on my website?

http://www.digitalinsomnia.cc

I will, of course, give credit and a link to the site.

JT
03-27-2003, 16:40
feel free to distribute it. no need for credit, just get the word out :)

Supamatt
03-27-2003, 19:03
Here's a link to the article on my site:
http://www.digitalinsomnia.cc/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=29&mode=flat&order=0&thold=0

mjbliemel
03-28-2003, 11:12
With all their impressive credentials and higher education, they are still a bunch of idiots for pursuing this war.

If they were truly an intelligent bunch of people their political and diplomatic efforts would have succeeded instead of failed.

Going to war is just an indication of their failure, nothing to be proud of in my opinion.

William Harris
03-28-2003, 12:34
Please, let's avoid a political bitch session with the predictable results! Failure of diplomacy? Give be a break - reminds me of an anti-French joke: Hannibal Lecter says he loves the French, they taste like Chicken. If you're a Democrat loyalist, nothing Bush has ever done will be acceptable. If you're a Republican (like me) the President is doing exactly what we want him to do (although, I would prefer the airforce simply carpet bomb the Republican Guards with B52s and to hell with the Politically Correct war - sort of like Truman deciding to drop the Bomb to save 500,000 American lives to invade the Japanese homeland. I don't want to see our troops fighting house to house in Bagdad. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! PEACE THRU VICTORY!

JT
03-28-2003, 14:28
I am with you William. Carpet bomb with MOAB's at a minimal. none the less, I am sure this thread will draw some traffic :D which the site needs.

William Harris
03-28-2003, 14:36
Saddam and his thugs should be crispy critters by now! Saddam obviously doesn't care anything about casualties to his own people and in fact is using "human shields" (troops operating out of hospitals and schools, jets and tanks staged in cemetaries and neighborhoods, etc.) and will use every deception possible to inflict losses on the Coalition forces. The only response should be overwhelming fire power to save our troops lives! The only lasting peace comes thru complete victory on the battlefield.

JT
03-28-2003, 15:18
I would say the following to those trying to fight this war politically correct.

Forget it! People have a short memory. How soon they forget 9/11 which only happened a short while agao. Just like they have forgotton 9/11 they will forget this war. Which is another reason to go in full force.

Supamatt
03-28-2003, 15:57
It seems my roomate has quite a response to my reposting of your post JT (not that I didn't expect one based on the rest of the content of the site):

http://www.digitalinsomnia.cc/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=30&mode=flat&order=0&thold=0

JT
03-28-2003, 17:45
i didnt even finish the first paragraph.

Supamatt
03-28-2003, 17:53
My positive outlook on life clashes with his daily:D

William Harris
03-28-2003, 19:59
To quote my father, a wise and kind person, who raised a large family and sent all of his children to college, who was a life long Democrat until, as he put it, I didn't leave the Democrat party, they left me: One was is not a liberal in his youth has no heart, one who is not a conservative later in life has no brains!

ehljags
04-13-2003, 16:54
Gentlemen,

I agree with JT -- I did not get much beyound the first paragraph. However, having said that, we do have fredom of speach, and I respect everyones opinion (although I may not agree with it).


My major concern -- lets finish our business, save our men and women POWs, minimize American losses, and get rid of evil bastards.

Now back to car-stuff!!

William Harris
04-14-2003, 12:10
As the war winds down the job of U.S. Troops should be to hunt down the leaders, maintain security and establish the ground work for some form of representative government and come home as soon as possible. The cabal of the unwilling should have nothing to do with it. They wouldn't help us rid the world of a horrible dictator, now they want to tell us how to rebuild the country. To hell with them.