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RandallNeighbour

12-14-2006, 18:48

Anyone on the forum tried it?

(It's the most expensive coffee in the world, whose ripe coffee beans are fed to a civet and then cleaned and roasted after the marsupial passes them through its digestive tract. Yeah, I know it's gross but frankly, coffee lovers like myself will try most anything at least once and I know I am not alone or no one would be buying it!)

So, anyone here tried it?

dharrisonwu

12-14-2006, 19:05

Where can I get some?!?

I love coffee, drink it black, and have 5-6 cups a day.

I need it.

Bob O

12-14-2006, 19:16

I MIGHT try it, but I've never seen it around. I'll google it and see what comes up. I've heard about it before, and frankly, pretty quickly forgot about it and the name. I can imagine WHY its the most expensive coffee in the world. Would YOU be interested in processing coffee beans which have passed through a civet? ummmmmm no thanks. Do you know where it's grown? I'm partial to Sumatra (light to medium roast) and Blue Mountain.

Bob O

12-14-2006, 19:22

"Coffee is grown in dozens of countries around the world. Some varieties have earned a special reputation, often based on a combination of rarity, unusual circumstances and particularly good flavor. These coffees, from Jamaican Blue Mountain to Kona to Tanzanian Peaberry, command a premium price. But perhaps no coffee in the world is in such short supply, has such unique flavors and an, um, interesting background as Kopi Luwak. And no coffee even comes close in price: Kopi Luwak sells for $75 per quarter pound. Granted, that's substantially less than marijuana, but it's still unimaginably high for coffee.

Kopi (the Indonesian word for coffee) Luwak comes from the islands of Sumatra, Java and Sulawesi (formerly Celebes), which are part of the Indonesian Archepelago's 13,677 islands (only 6,000 of which are inhabited). But it's not strictly the exotic location that makes these beans worth their weight in silver. It's how they're "processed."

On these Indonesian islands, there's a small marsupial called the paradoxurus, a tree-dwelling animal that is part of the sibet family. Long regarded by the natives as pests, they climb among the coffee trees eating only the ripest, reddest coffee cherries. Who knows who first thought of it, or how or why, but what these animals eat they must also digest and eventually excrete. Some brazen or desparate -- or simply lazy -- local gathered the beans, which come through the digestion process fairly intact, still wrapped in layers of the cherries' mucilage. The enzymes in the animals' stomachs, though, appear to add something unique to the coffee's flavor through fermentation.

Curiously, Kopi Luwak isn't the only "specialty" food that begins this way. Argan is an acacia-like tree that grows in Morocco and Mexico which, through its olive-like fruit, yields argan oil. In Morocco, the Berbers encourage goats to climb the trees to eat the fruit. They later gather the goats' excrement and remove the pits, which they grind for oil to be used in massage, in cooking and as an aphrodisiac."

Oh yum. But at $75 per quarter pound, I'm afraid I'll have to pass!!!!! holy civet batman.

Bob

RandallNeighbour

12-14-2006, 19:32

at $75 per quarter pound, I'm afraid I'll have to pass!!!!!

That's what the civet said! Ha! :dance:

It's available on ebay and other retailers. Yup, real, real expensive. But worth a try. I've posted a blog entry for all my local friends to read to see if they want to chip in 5 bucks a piece and come over for a cup to see if it's worth it or not.

Travis

12-14-2006, 23:52

Hey Randall I am up for it . . . .

$75.00 for a 1/4 Lb of Coffee
$5.00 each for 1 1/2 cups of coffee
15 friends sharing a cup of joe together
Being able to say you drank a cup of coffee made from a civet's ass
PRICELESS!!!

:D

Travis

12-15-2006, 00:20

Yumm Yumm ;)

http://986forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4831&stc=1

Grizzly

12-15-2006, 01:36

I'm not a coffee drinker, so I'm gonna need some help with this. You're telling me that you are lusting after a cup of hot, steaming marsupial poop. Do I have that right?

Dr. Kill

12-15-2006, 01:44

I'm not a coffee drinker, so I'm gonna need some help with this. You're telling me that you are lusting after a cup of hot, steaming marsupial poop. Do I have that right?

What? Someone in your line of work who doesn't drink coffee?! Do the others trust you?

Grizzly

12-15-2006, 01:57

What? Someone in your line of work who doesn't drink coffee?! Do the others trust you?

If they don't, I doubt they'd mention it.

Bob O

12-15-2006, 02:26

Randall.. I'm a coffee fanatic. I drink it all the time: Jamaica Blue Mountain, Kona, some yummy Sumatra or Tanzania Peaberry, etc. BUT... damm I really don't think I could do this. As Grizz said..."You're telling me that you are lusting after a cup of hot, steaming marsupial poop. Do I have that right?". I think the picture did it for me!! I'm not opposed to eating raw fish, or fermented cabbage, or pickled pig's feet. Hell, I even like brussel sprouts. I'm pretty adventurous when it comes to food, but, I don't care HOW good it might be, brewed civet poop is probably NOT on my menu! lol

Travis. It might be "priceless" but its beyond my capability!

Bob

Perfectlap

12-15-2006, 03:38

boy I'd hate to have the job of the guy cleaning out those beans. Hope he's wearing gloves. Talk about dirt under the finger nails...

RandallNeighbour

12-15-2006, 14:08

Dr. Kill

12-15-2006, 14:22

I'm not lusting after drinking crap-flavored coffee, I assure you!

It's been thoroughly cleaned and then roasted, which kills anything that it might have picked up during the "curing" process.

I'd like to find out if any forum member has really tried it or not and what it tastes like before I spend a bunch of money on coffee that tastes a little different, but not worth the money.

Not just cleaned, but cleaned in the third world so you know it's good!

I have not yet tried this coffee, but this post has inspired me. I am gathering together some friends to share the cost with and we will take the plunge.

Since it seems that everyone on this board has actually provided some helpful Boxster related information to others while I mostly just advise people to burn things, I figure this is a good opportunity to “take one for the team.”

I will report back progress and results. Also, in case any of you happen to know my wife, please don’t tell her where the coffee comes from…

RandallNeighbour

01-01-2007, 21:39

Well, Travis (a new forum member who posted that lovely picture above) PM'd me last week and Saturday morning I drove up to his house and we drank a pot of this civet-pooped coffee. Travis paid $50 for a 6 ounces of it.

We both determined that is nice coffee, but it ain't worth the price and Starbucks beans will do just fine, thank you very much.

So Dr. Kill, if you want to buy some, you go right ahead... I'm saving my cash for boxster repairs or better yet, my supercharger.

Thank you, Travis, for taking the plunge and inviting me over!

BTW, I've met about five or six forum members in person now, and have found all of them to be very nice people. In fact, Houston_C4S and I (his name is Mark) and I have become very good friends! This is a great forum. I hope everyone has a great 2007, and I do hope someone on this forum wins the Ashville Symphony's Cayman raffle. It's our turn to shine!

Dr. Kill

01-02-2007, 17:32

wow, beaten to the punch - well I am glad you enjoyed the coffee and it didn't make you guys sick. We are still planning to take the plunge here, so if anyone in the NY/ NJ/ PA area wants in, send me a PM - we are targeting Feb.

Rail26

01-02-2007, 19:20

I am thinking we might have a business here Randall. I am currently running the beans through my cat George and he is crapping as fast as possible. I took an action picture for you...potential investors please contact me for incredible investment opportunity.

Dr Kill: I have a position for you as Quality Control
DenverPete: you will be Feline Recruiter
Jeff Squire: Definately need a lawyer.
Grizz: Security for our valuable felines.

Travis

01-02-2007, 19:24

I am thinking we might have a business here Randall. I am currently running the beans through my cat George and he is crapping as fast as possible. I took an action picture for you...potential investors please contact me for incredible investment opportunity.

So Rail, you doing the hand picking of the beans too? :p

I am having a cup of that "Famous" coffee right now, but with Bailey's it taste just like the coffee from 7-11 ;)

cfos

01-02-2007, 22:48

Travis

01-03-2007, 02:12

So... since the beans are cleaned... what actually happens to them during the passage threw the digestive tract? Is it some enzymatic process that unlocks some hidden flavor? Is it the acidity of the civet's stomach (perhaps, can be replicated in a solution in a lab)? What do the beans taste like before going through the GI tract... Very curious.

Actually I think it is a great marketing scheme to get nit-wits like myself to pay $$$ to try it :o

It really has no different taste than other beans, I mean it is a good cup of coffee . . but just that . . . . "good" cup of coffee.

Sort of like when I was in China and went to this place that was famous for it's fish, they would take a live fish and wrapped it's head and tail with a cold towel then quickly cook the middle and bring it to your table to eat while the mouth and tail still moving. Did the fish taste any better than if they just cooked it regularly . . . I do not think so, but the marketing of it let them charge more :cheers:

Rail26

01-03-2007, 05:25

Travis, I experienced that same thing in china...Everytime we poked the fish his mouth moved. Dude, very disturbing.

Grizzly

01-03-2007, 08:59

Grizz: Security for our valuable felines.

I'm all over it. :cool:

Rail26

01-03-2007, 13:26

ATTN: Incredible breakthrough on Bean Extractors! I have streamlined the process by using regular housecats to not only crap the beans, but as bean extractors as well. Kopi Luwak coffee will now be named "Rail26's Morning Goodness".

Travis

01-03-2007, 14:32

cfos

01-03-2007, 17:15

Actually I think it is a great marketing scheme to get nit-wits like myself to pay $$$ to try it :o

It really has no different taste than other beans, I mean it is a good cup of coffee . . but just that . . . . "good" cup of coffee.:

Huh. Good to know. I'll stick with my coffee and chicory when I need to feel "exotic".

UroTrash

01-03-2007, 22:45

There was a nice article a couple of years ago in the Wall Street Journal (which is 3 inches narrower starting yesterday, BTW :( ).

Apparently there is a huge trade in counterfeit poop-coffee, and in fact the vast majority of the stuff you happily pay $75 per pound for has never seen the inside of a cat.

It pays to know your s**t.

Addendum.

I actually think of that article everytime I'm eating roasted peanuts and get to one of those that's kind of shriveled up and appears to have a little fungus on it.

I think they taste 100 times better than the grade-A peanuts but am a little worried about the possibilities of aflatoxins (highly carcinogenic compounds found in moldy peanuts).

UroTrash

01-03-2007, 22:55

Lookie:

I esp like the gift boxes with the turd-in-lucite-paperweights:

http://www.animalcoffee.com/products/index.cfm/cat/dlx-box/

.

RandallNeighbour

01-03-2007, 23:07

Travis, did we not drink the real thing? Uro's got me wondering if I should buy some from the source he sited, lucite paperweight and all!

Travis

01-03-2007, 23:28

Travis, did we not drink the real thing? Uro's got me wondering if I should buy some from the source he sited, lucite paperweight and all!

Well mine also had a picture of a Civet on it too ;)

www.kopiluwakonline.com (http://www.kopiluwakonline.com/)

But Uro did get me to think about the fact of how many reseller's vs. Coffee beans being sold each year . . . Then you have to take into consideration the "Rectal Displacment" of the beans and how much/often, I mean is there really that many Civet's in Indonesia?

I am thinking of Weasel Coffe now!

Vietnam has a similar type of coffee, called Weasel Coffee (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weasel_Coffee&action=edit) which also comes from the droppings of weasels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel) after they eat the coffee cherries.